PES2021

Smells Like Team Spirit

Apologies for the missing post last week, i planned to post it up Friday, but after rewiring all my gaming/cinema room tech due to fitting a new surge protected socket, I then went to fire up the gaming PC and couldn’t get a signal out of it, spent 45 mins turning it on, off, etc but no good, and due to other things I had to do, I had to leave it.

Turns out where Id moved stuff about, the HDMI cable had pulled out of the back of the AV receiver that the PC runs into, that was all, Schoolboy !

Been a busy week so not that much to report on the ML front, I removed the game play patch I was using, it does some good things, but also introduces other issues which were agitating me, so back on Konami Vanilla GP.

Team Spirit (TS) is slowly increasing, and it really is a ball ache to play ML with a TS rating under 75, even there its a bit shoddy still, it affects runs, positioning, passes, tackles, everything, and not surprisingly, as my TS has increased, results have started picking up a bit, including a 3-0 away demolition of Chelsea, who were sat in 3rd place.

Europa League Spots are going to be our best hope this season I feel use it as a springboard, sign some better quality and give it a go next season.
We need some better quality out wide on both flanks, as I prefer to play Saint-Maximin as a Support Striker, using his pace to get in behind.
We’ve had a bid for Rafinha of Leeds Utd accepted, he will join in January, which will give us more pace on the right side.

It is still such a joy to play PES21 with its slower more considered game play, after the frantic rush and attack of FIFA 22, but I’m still getting caught out by the FIFA muscle memory, and the way you need to play PES is vastly different.
Its a nice thing to have a PES modded up ML on the burner though to pick up and play when the urge arises.

I also downloaded Madden 22, I got it free as a subscriber to EA play, the presentation is superb, so detailed, and I enjoyed the few games I play, I just have absolutely no clue which play to pick and when so mainly play a passing game, going for the hollywood touchdown pass everytime.

A small handful of goals, nothing special but a nice variation from my last couple of games:

69 thoughts on “Smells Like Team Spirit”

  1. #1- think so, I summoned up an npc wizard dude, let fly with my jellyfish and glint stone arc and had a cm of health. Heart going like the clappers!. Nearly as good as Killing the cleric beast from bloodborne first go. Bare in mind I’m an amateur when it comes to these games, loving elden rings accessibility and huge map. I discovered a burning land that looked straight out of hierynomous bosch, pure hell scape.

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  2. Werd – youre gonna love whats coming next, it just keeps getting better and better. Awesome game and hieronymus Bosch is right! Lol

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  3. Afternoon all, been away in NYC – amazing time, until returning to Heathrow airport and entering the final level of hell that is current UK operations and customer service. I’ve not touched footy games other than to sell Fifa once it became a psplus freebie. It’s been Skyrim all the way as I quest to get back the trophies I gave up when changing accounts. I hate that it considers me a newb when I’ve been the Dragonborn who freed them all (of course in game you don’t remotely get that reaction no matter how powerful you become). Currently playing quite a few of the new anniversary lines – they’re not wildly great but I do like the added homes and items. Still quite bugged in places though. I’ll likely stay away from PES until the next football season.

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  4. Tried to give FIFA another go. It’s not bad but it’s underwhelming. Very floaty and no weight to the players. It seemed very weighty when I samples it on PS4 around October or somewhere around there. Also not noticing much difference between PS4 and PS5. Wasn’t there supposed to be a new engine of sorts on PS5? I see FIFA has also taken some pages out of PES’ book in certain match situations, i.e. suddenly messing up controls, weird deflections etcetera. That felt new for FIFA but not in a good way.

    Anyhow, pes21 fully modded feels very stale as well. Trying a gameplay mod next, if that doesn’t produce results (it likely won’t) then it’s curtains for now on football gaming. The general feel of it all is so flat and boring.

    Rather do another playthrough of Elden Ring than go through the footy gaming slot again. Oh well.

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  5. Morning all, just back from Sweden now – what a fabulous place. Weirdly at no point in the trip did I see any money – it seems almost entirely cashless over there and everything does what it is supposed to (unlike Manchester airport…). My last two experiences of airports have been so bad that we aren’t bothering this summer – Scotland in the car seems a much easier option. Still Skyrimming, no footy, but I have pulled the trigger on a long mooted consideration played out via both Paul and NG – I went Mac. Specifically a big store local to me that is giving up on selling Apple was having a fire sale – managed to get a 2019 16 inch Macbook Pro for just over £1000. No idea what to do with it yet but seemed one of those aligning of the fates moments.

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  6. Sounds like some epic travelling there Turf, great that you managed to avoid flight cancellations etc amid this airports farce. Where did you end up going in Sweden? Fair to say that nobody here would ever accuse you of not extracting your money’s worth from Skyrim. Interested to hear what you end up doing with the Mac, certainly a decent price

    Werd – I’m still trying to visualise your Elden Ring ‘build’. Envisaging a strangely attired fellow with a big array of weird items and unusual magic. Still pottering about the starter area myself, a bit overawed at the thought of getting properly stuck in

    PES21 still going well although I’m finding it really difficult. Even with 4 good high-70s players on loan, including Mata, was still stuck at the bottom of Ligue 2 most of season 1 in the restart. None of my usual PES formations, tactics etc seem to work. Only a late switch to a Christmas tree 4-3-2-1 formation enabled us to scrape 5 1-0 wins in the last 8 games, hitting the chairman’s target of 17th place thereby avoiding the sack! A generous reward of 8m euros in wage budget, now to start building a proper team….

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  7. abbeyhill I have started pes 2021 again recent after not playing it for almost 2 months to let it become proper for me again, I was just too familiar with it after what is now almot 2 years. eFootball 22 is pretty good but there is nothing to do with it and master league is not out until spring 2023 at the earliest

    pes 2021 is the best pes game of its era, better than any since the PS2 days, and i know that’s controversial with titles like pes 2011/12/13 and pes 17 since tjen, but it’s as if it’s got the best of all of them and more.

    assume you’re still on superstar, watch out for random mid-season warnings and take them seriously if you get one. I’ve been sacked twice in pes 21 and both times it was pretty much out of the blue in the middle of February or something after being told I had to win my next match, but not winning.

    if anyone hasn’t looked at efootball since it released, it’s a good time to sample it again now. Still nothing to play with it really if you don’t play online, but it’s playing good, and its amazing how slow and steady it is

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  8. abbeyhill – NE to Manchester airport – to Copenhagen – train to Lund (about 40 mins away). Lund is lovely, like a small York maybe. It’s population of 40 thousand doubles when the uni is on (it was holidays so it was very quiet). If I’d had an extra day I’d have got the train to Malmo (about 20 mins away) as I was told Stockholm was 5 hours and they think of it as a different Sweden. I guess Malmo-Lund-Helsingborg are like the Alsace-Lorraine of Scandinavia.

    Skyrim anniversary has added a lot more content. Not all of it great but it’s all about the trophies for me now

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  9. ah yeah sounds vaguely familiar Turf – about 15 years ago we flew to Copenhagen then drove over the bridge to Malmo, stayed somewhere inland amid trees and lakes, sure we went to Lund too. My daughter is for some reason learning Swedish on duolingo, hopeful that we’ll take her back to Stockholm one day

    thanks for the advice Adriano, yes on superstar and worried that one of your random warnings is imminent. Christmas tree formation has completely stopped working, rooted to the bottom of Ligue 2 again, miles adrift of the chairman’s targeted 8th place. Desperately need a dramatic change, might try 3 up front as nothing else has worked. Despite my inability I would agree with you that the game feels like a classic PES, although the PES12 you mention is a very high bar! Any idea if it’s still possible to switch formation in-game? In the past you used to be able to map a second formation to one of the d-pad tactics, but I’m not seeing it. Obviously a bit different from ‘fluid formations’ which auto-switch depending on whether you’re defending or attacking

    may as well download eFootball 22 too – a number of people are saying it’s now decent, and it is free after all

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  10. abbeyhill, from memory it’s Game Plan – Support Settings – and in there should be an option to turn on something called Team Strategy Change to ON. It is off by default. When you’ve done that youll see that you can now flick between 3 formations on the main screen and choose how to setup. In a match you switch by pressing and holding up/down on d-pad

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  11. Abbey-prisoner for me, couldn’t resist the metal helmet, hi dex and Seinfeld floppy shirt, magic is getting there and chuffed I have killed as many bosses as I have, stressful game though,.

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  12. apropos of nothing at all, and in no particular order, I have selected my top 20 games of all time:

    1 PES3
    2 Jak & Daxter
    3 Rez
    4 FIFA19
    5 Metal Gear Solid 5
    6 Witcher 3
    7 Fire Emblem Awakening
    8 Dark Souls
    9 Zelda Breath of the Wild
    10 Zelda Majora’s Mask
    11 PES12
    12 Red Dead Redemption II
    13 Bioshock
    14 Resident Evil 4
    15 Ico
    16 Shadow of the Colossus
    17 Metroid Fusion
    18 Winning Eleven GBA
    19 Xenoblade Chronicles
    20 COD4 or Death Stranding or Super Mario Odyssey

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  13. Ah, timing – I was just about to Linkedin you, thinking you possibly don’t walk down this street any more. It’s a provocative post as well….multi-platform yet nothing dating right back to the early computer days – going to have to give that some thought. e.g I loved Pes2012 but I suspect that was more due to joining the NG gang for the first time that year. Does that make it a great game?

    In the meantime just spent a fabulous week in Kenmore on Loch Tay and we are keen to explore some other lochs in the future. Lomond and Ness we know about but any you have been to? Not really into wild seclusion – somewhere with a bit of life by the water’s edge suits. Just so much nicer than the mob of the Lake District despite the appalling Morpeth – Berwick single track drive.

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  14. Right I have thought. Firstly, it is a much older list than yours Abbeyhill, and one that really needs to be viewed in the context of my console ownership and playing. I started in the arcades around the same time as owning a Spectrum, then had a SNES, and ultimately the PS1-4 (these were the hard worked machines). When I was a game reviewer I also had a Gamecube, Xbox and Xbox360 (only the Cube got much airtime, so things like Fable and Halo never took hold). I have also had various handhelds, a Dreamcast, and a fair bit of PC gaming. I never owned a NES, Sega MS or N64 (so Goldeneye is out). Some games are undoubtedly stunning (Secret of Mana) but I just never got round to finishing. We also view things through a golden haze so absolutely a spectrum game is not as impressive as RDR2 but it’s simply where they feature in my history (hence me choosing a CM that would not feature in many best ever lists, but I only wanted to choose one of each if it was a series). With the exception of number 1 they are similarly in no order…

    1. Skyrim
    2. Championship Manager 3
    3. Final Fantasy VII
    4. Super Mario Kart
    5. Civilisation 2
    6. PES 2012
    7. Shadow of Rome
    8. Legend of Zelda A link to the past
    9. Minecraft
    10. Tomb Raider
    11. GTA 3
    12. Super Mario Allstars (bit of a cheat – it’s SM3 if pushed)
    13. Football Director
    14. Far Cry 3
    15. Lego Marvel Superheroes
    16. Footballer of the Year
    17. Disgaea Hour of Darkness
    18. Head Coach
    19. Tetris Effect
    20. Salamander/Life Force

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  15. fascinating list Turf, as you say it is all about what the games meant for you at the time rather than trying an objective comparison between Spectrum and current-gen. I had a long break in gaming between teenage years and my 30s, when wife bought a PS2, so missed out on some of your era and have not played many of the above beyond Mario, PES, Skyrim, Zelda, Minecraft and GTA. Tempted to put Manic Miner and Oric classics like Zorgon’s Revenge and Defence Force on my list, but simpler to stick to post-2000s. In standalone terms I still view PES2012 as an all time classic, but as you say was enhanced by all of us playing at the same time, comparing our Shimizus and Ribeiros etc

    glad you had a great time back in Scotland. Last summer we stayed next to Loch Fyne, just around the water from Inverary, and would thoroughly recommend that – nearby Loch Goil also seemed good, quite a few bits and pieces to see and do, not over-run with tourists like the Scottish Isles or Lake District. This year to celebrate 20th wedding anniversary we went to St Lucia, more trouble than it was worth tbh

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  16. Ah the lost years – I had a period like that with football, stats nerd till uni then didn’t even watch the cup final for a decade. What differed for me was a mate getting a snes in our final year and discovering you could start playing with the intention of half an hour before the pub but next time you checked the clock it was midnight. Soon as I had a job I bought one. Similarly though I haven’t played many of yours and it gives me thoughts if I ever finish Skyrim to a ‘happy with this’ level. Ico stinks though…

    Yes, we went to Scotland as after a couple of airport experiences this year we weren’t keen to repeat. Braving it in October as well – couple of work trips in the offing and family holiday. Newcastle is small enough to be quite good, but destinations are limited. We’ve usually stayed in Pitlochry but it was so much better being on the loch. I’ve heard of loch fyne in food terms, will check it out thanks. I’d also heard St Lucia was amazing but unlikely to go – my Caribbean experience is 45 mins in the airport in jamaica waiting to change flights.

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  17. Similar to me. Speccy 48 then 128+2a in my early teens, nes then snes(played zelda for 5 hours straight and saw Link wandering the dark world when closed my eyes)iss supers soccer deluxe started my pes journey, N64 glorious then dabbled in ps1, MOH marathons. Ps2 came about after a break and Mrs werd wanted one with ratchet and clank, GTA. Pes3-2008 ah those editing hours! Then ps3 fallout3/ skyrim epics, ps4 with fallout 4, cities skylines, switch and mario maker 2, ps5 up to date. Wii and wii u not my cup of tea, snes/nes mini and ds/3ds getting plenty of mario kart time. In short I’ve had a good gaming life.

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  18. I thought I reviewed Ratchet and Clank for the games website I was with but maybe it wasn’t – it was a game where two characters are handcuffed together or similar and you swap between them? It was a role where I got dozens of free games (no sleeves, couldn’t be resold, I gave most away) and the turnaround time was enough to put you off everything. Imagine getting PES 6 say and being told ‘review by tomorrow’. How do you even begin to give it a fair hearing? It was only ever a sideline – the bloke who ran it used to be a tester and once had to play GTA for 24 hours on a handheld to see if it would break. Probably accounts for why I have some gaps in my history and a really personal dislike of the Chronicles of Riddick.

    Trip to Seaburn tonight I think Werd – despite the issues of the north east fabulous beaches remain a strong point

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  19. South shields last weekend turf, not too busy, our Frenchy can get a run out and the gelato isn’t too bad either. Middlesbrough Mela this weekend.

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