That pretty much sums up online gaming in general, but especially online footy gaming, where the people that play online, don’t appear to play for the enjoyment of the game, but more to win at all costs.
You have the good players, players that play the right way, proper football, show etiquette and are generally a lot of fun to play against, you have the bad, people that play Overpowered formations, and tactics such as all out pressure for 90 mins, and choose all the teams with the fastest players in, and generally use every skill trick in the game in every attack, then you have the ugly.
The ugly are all of the aforementioned bad traits, but with an agenda, an agenda not to enjoy the game or even play out, but just to piss off/aggravate the other player as much as possible.
Constant pausing of the game for 35 secs at a time, several times in a row without making any changes, watching every single replay all the way through, purposely fouling you as soon as you get the ball, laggy connections that remind me of a 90’s dial up modem, and rage quitting, quitting midway through the game, not always even when they are losing but even if you equalise.
This was one match I played, every time he attacked, smooth as butter, every time I got the ball, this happened:
These people are unfortunately the majority, and probably an accurate representation of society today, certainly the predominant online gaming age group, 12-20 year olds that think they are owed everything and want it immediately without earning it, with attitudes bigger than Peter North’s cock, who are delicate little butthurt princesses who cannot take not winning.
But when you do come up against the good players, its generally a good fun experience playing other humans online, and that’s what I’ve been doing with FIFA 19’s online seasons mode.
I started out using average South American teams such as Cruzeiro, Independenté and Santos, in the hope of playing more football minded people, but that didn’t work out so opted for Borussia Dortmund, a 4 star team, with a good balance of pace and power.
I started in season 10, and upon first attempt was promoted to Div 9, then to Div 8, then I won the Div 7 and Div 6 titles, and am now in Division 5, where I finished 2 points short of promotion in my first season, winning 3, drawing 5 and losing 2 of the 10 games, so remind in the division.
It’s a nice aside at this time of the footy gaming year when there is little else to do, will probably play here and there up until end of August then give it a break before the release of eSuperPixelOnlineElectronicKickballFest2020, which I WILL be trying on day one, but won’t be pulling any punches, if it doesn’t hold up, then FIFA 20 will only be a few weeks away.
That leads me on to the eFootball PES20 demo that released this week.
But first, a selection of goals I’ve scored online against real humans in my FIFA Divisions campaign.
So, the PES20 demo, I won’t go into pro’s and cons of it as this has been discussed in detail in various places, but suffice to say, this won’t be representative of the product we get on release day, Konami just don’t have the balls to keep the fouls in or the game pace that considered, it would upset the online kids.
Anyway, I’ve enjoyed the matches I have played, and with ML getting a bit of a lick of paint this year along with custom kits and club sponsor logos, it *could* possibly have potential to be a decent ML season, if only they sort out that shady AI that seems to have creeped over from last year and been dumbed down even more.
16 thoughts on “The good, the bad, the ugly”
Paul – That online thingy is scary. Is that some kind of widget they use to make that happen?
Some lovely online goals there against fairer opposition.
What’s the word on FIFA 20 this year then? Any major updates?
I’m still enjoying the summer in retro PES (currently PES 2011 on PS2) but I’d be a fool to think I won’t be tempted to get bang up to date with a new PES or FIFA.
Shed – they use an app that sends/receives random data over their connection in a pattern that produces the lag effect. I think they can have it rigged in such a way that it only lags your end of the connection too. I don’t understand it either. It’s a generational thing probably.
Paul – you certainly had your shooting boots on in that mini-compilation. A couple of long-rangers too. In my own silly season hi-jinks I’m currently sampling the delights of manual passing/shooting on PES as you might have seen. FIFA, of course, pretty much invented the whole Manual deal, and I will be back across the aisle to give it another week or two in due course. August is a long month…
Your online woes both surprise and don’t surprise me. Surprise that no way has been found to deal with the buggers yet, and no surprise in the sense that there will never be a way to deal with them and it’ll always happen, 30 years ago we’d have all said online gaming would be the greatest thing ever and when it came along there’d be no reason ever to leave the house again. But now look at it.
Still some great games of course, but the shit in the pie kind of takes the shine off things.
Shed/NG – as Ng said, you can actually buy lag boxes that flood your opponents listening port with data packets causing their end of the connection to lag and stutter. Sad times.
I’ve generally enjoyed the online games though, idiots aside, it gives an extra level of focus and challenge playing a real person.
As you will have seen from the goals video, I score a few straight from kick off at the start of the game, 1-2, pass and move high tempo, hit em hard right from the off, they hate it as they are chasing the game from the 1st minute, and leave themselves open.
90% of online players play a very aggressive pressing game, so as soon as you receive the ball you have 3 players swarming upon you, the right formation, and a pass and move game is the only way to combat this, thats why a lot of games seem like fast and furious kick and rush affairs, because if you take too long on the ball, you just get swarmed.
Pass it around on in-swarming players, wait for them to leave chunks of space then play into it, works most of the time.
Shed -from what i know about FIFA 20, there will be an additional 34 stadiums taking it to over 100 in game, fully licensed Spanish La Liga, broadcast elements, all stadiums etc, revamped career mode, details on that get announced early next week, revised ball physics, new control schemes for finesse dribbling, passing, shooting etc.
Some great, and very transparent details on the new features here:
Paul – I don’t think I answered your question of a while back, re. my plan to get FIFA20 on release this year. You asked why, and the simple answer is: fear of missing out. FIFA19’s quality is so high that I don’t want to risk missing a Footy Game For The Ages by not getting to it until next June or something. So I’m going to do what I’ve done in the past and give FIFA a good couple of days in late September. We shall see how it goes.
Suffice to say that FOULS are all FIFA needs to make that leap for me. Did you ever get a reply to your Tweet to EA? I’m fascinated as ever by the industry-wide cloak of silence over the whole issue.
No I didn’t get a reply, whether it was just lost amongst the thousands of other tweets the EA guy gets or just blatantly ignored or a mixture of both, but still no reply.
no idea who Peter North is, nor have I seen his cock, so you are ahead of me there Paul!
just bought FIFA19 at the weekend, only had time for a couple of co-op games with my son so far but now settling down to have a proper go. Can you remind me what settings you use to get that nice angled camera?
Abbeyhill – Peter North was a 80s/90s Porn star, most males my age would have heard of him im sure, unless you had a very closeted upbringing.
Its just Broadcast camera, left on default settings.
FIFA 20 Career Mode changes:
Abbeyhill – with you there on ‘Peter north’, I assumed it was auto correct of Peter crouch.
Mini turf’s pal – let’s call him jr PC (as his dad’s a copper) – is now a regular visitor. He is an Xbox user and nailed firmly to the FIFA mast. Mini turf favours pes. They defend their corner impressively when deciding which to fire up, with comments such as ‘pes is rubbish’ and ‘FIFA is rubbish’ the ones that make it to my ears. I’ve always tried to maintain an even commentary so it’s great that they’ve gone down this familiar route of their own bat.
I’m backing Paul on the Peter North discussion, but I’m not sure who this reflects worse on.
Turf, you must be proud that mini and his pal have already ascended to not-Greg v Paul levels of PES v FIFA intellectual debate! My kids are firmly in the FIFA camp and delighted with the new purchase. I’m still not entirely convinced
Turf – Just tell them to take it in turns, maybe set up a mini-league for them, they play eachother 5 times on each game, and overall winner gets the prize of not being taunted, jeered and bullied, instill some healthy winning mentality at a young age!!
Chris99 – If anyone knew who he was, I thought it would be you.
I’m more surprised that males of around our age group DON’T know who he is, surely those hidden german VHS cassettes were a thing of most males childhood?
Abbeyhill – NG and I’s FIFA/PES debate does reach ridiculously high intellectual levels.
It all stems from NG’s ability to accept that PES 19 was atrocious and had the worst AI of any video game ever, even worst than Hungry Horace on 48k Spectrum tape cassette.
Thanks Paul, I think. Hungry Horace also came with the 16k Spectrum on the bundled Psion cassette.
Chris99 – I ended up winning the bid on ebay so have a trusty old SPeccy on its way, will only gather dust but good for a giggle or 2.